Soccer Dad

Maimonides' grave is near Tiberias, now a Jewish city. It is still visited by thousands of pious Jews. The Jewish connection with Eretz Israel did not begin with the Holocaust. And Maimonides lived over a millenium ago, when Israel as a state did not then exist. Moreover, Jewish roots in Israel go back over 3,000 years. Obama's ignorance and outright distortion of Israel's history denies the very antiquity of the Jewish presence in the Land, which was maintained even throughout their exile.

I think you missed the fact that the speech was addressed to the Muslim world. In response to NormanF, I'd like to prepare for Laura's vile bigoted response to my comments by pointing out that, as NormanF pointed out, while there was not a Palestinian state prior to the creation of Israel, neither was there an Israel since around the time of the Roman occupation, which explains why Christ was dragged before a Roman governor named Pontius Pilate. The claim of the holocaust is far more legitimate than the claim that one's ancestors had a nation there 1,500 years ago. Under those rules, we should have given Europe to Italy after WWII. Much of the suspicion of Jews in Europe had to do with their lack of a homeland because Jews refused to assimilate with the cultures into which they emigrated, living in Jewish communities, marrying only other Jews, and holding their Jewish identity above their nationality.

Not only did Jews assimilate into the countries they lived in, they made positive contributions highly disproportionate to their numbers. The only thing vile is "common sense's" anti-Semitism as well as the left's constant apologies and excuses for muslim anti-semitism and their refusal to accept the right of Israel to exist. Ironic that this punk calls me a bigot.

The claim of the holocaust is far more legitimate than the claim that one's ancestors had a nation there 1,500 years ago

In what sense? And one's cultural and intellectual life was centered around that land and actually carried out there to an extent that anti-Zionists never mention. In your mind is Stratford-on-Avon simply a place where some English people's ancestors lived?

Laura is correct. It should be added that while the Romans disappeared, the Jews maintained their identity for as nearly as long as there has been recorded human history. They should have vanished like nearly every other ancient people. But a revived Israel is proof that there is an exception to every rule. The Jewish people are that exception.

a revived israel is prove that the zionist jews are no different from any past colonial oppressor.
the miracle of israels birth, and all the myths associated with it, has been exposed by israels new historians, yet there are those whose continue to believe the lies and even promote them. since when do religions have political rights.if zionism were judaism, antisemitism would be a moral imperative

Sass, because the Jews do have a state, they are hated. Israel is hated more an any country on earth. The Jews returned to their ancient homeland and instead of being secure in it, they're lectured on the need to stop making Israel a more welcoming place for Jews to live.

The more things change...

a revived israel is prove that the zionist jews are no different from any past colonial oppressor

On the contrary, a revived Israel proves that Jews belong there. In the end Great Britain, the real European power in this story, just wanted out.

colonialism is colonialism-what is happening to the palestinian is exactly the same thing which happened to the american indian. palestine wasn't a land without a people and the jews were a people already with a home. and the 24000 jews of palestine were totally against the idea of a jewish state in a arab country.
palestine wasn't the first territory to be thought of as a jewish homeland.herzl himself would have been ready to contemplate any territory for a jewish homeland, but most zionit felt that palestine was the only possible one. 'palestine was the land of their ancestors; the idea of the return to zion, of the next year in jerusalem, had been kept alive through long centuries of exile and suffering; only the mighty legend of palestine had the power to stir the jewish masses.' true , the idea of return had become spiritual in significance, it meant redemtion, a recovery of grace in gods sight; moreover, the ethnic connection between 19th century european jewry and ancient hebrews is a myth. but palestine was so deeply rooted in the jewish cultural and sentimental heritage that it easy for the political zionist to invest the return with a secular, physical meaning.

the ethnic connection between 19th century european jewry and ancient hebrews is a myth

Discovered any evidence for this claim yet? Your last attempt, IIRC, was a Wikipedia article that, as someone pointed out, you had not understood.

you were correct that my infomation was not from the dictionary-sorry, my mistake.
but it is wrong to assume it came from wikipedia.

The Jewish Encyclopedia: "Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania."

The Jewish Encyclopedia: "Khazars

The Jewish Encyclopedia is over a 100 years old.
Scholars generally don't take the Khazar theory
seriously these days. The Britannica online article says the Yiddish-speaking Jews of Slavic countries were in the Rhine valley and France before migrating East.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/38290/Ashkenazi

Hey jackass, I've already told you and which you ignored, that DNA evidence proves a genetic link between Ashkenazi Jews and the ancient Hebrews. But go ahead keep trying to argue against scientific evidence.

"The findings proved that Sephardi (from the Near East) and Ashkenazi (from Europe) Jews have nearly identical genetic profiles.
This profile, they subsequently discovered, is of Middle Eastern origin. Among other factors, this discovery is attributable to a low rate of intermarriage between Diaspora Jews and local gentiles.
"Since the Jews first settled in Europe more than 50 generations ago, the intermarriage rate was estimated to be only about 0.5%... Ashkenazi Jews are still closer genetically to Sephardic and Kurdish Jews than to any other population."
http://www.amazon.com/DNA-Tradition-Genetic-Ancient-Hebrews/dp/1930143893

The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew, Israelite, Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously to suggest a historic continuity. But this is a misuse. These words refer to different groups of people with varying ways of life in different periods in history. Hebrew is a term correctly applied to the period from the beginning of Biblical history to the settling in Canaan. Israelite refers correctly to the members of the twelve tribes of Israel. The name Yehudi or Jew is used in the Old Testament to designate members of the tribe of Judah, descendants of the fourth son of Jacob, as well as to denote citizens of the Kingdom of Judah, particularly at the time of Jeremiah and under the Persian occupation. Centuries later, the same word came to be applied to anyone, no matter of what origin, whose religion was Judaism
Dr. Lilienthal

The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew, Israelite, Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously to suggest a historic continuity blah blah blah

Does this mean you are giving up on the Khazar theory? If in your mind this paragraph from Lilienthal suggests some argument leading to the conclusion that Ashkenazic Jews don't have remote ancestors who lived in Israel in ancient times, why don't you put it in your own words?