Soccer Dad

i believe that aipac and all other lobbies and lobbists should be illegal. they are a direct threat to the american people because our voices are never heard and these CRIMINALS are given every concession thru legal bribery.

AIPAC is without any doubt the most dangerous lobby. political leaders run in fear of them and are extreamly careful never to say anything negative about aipac or israel. by doing so will have you branded ANTISEMETIC. as we have seen in the past, anyone branded antisemetic by aipac have had their careers and future ruined. will someone explain how one lobby weilds so much power and influence and basicly controls our foriegn policy? DOES ISRAEL OWN THE UNITED STATES?

"by doing so will have you branded ANTISEMETIC".
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If the shoe fits.
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"will someone explain how one lobby weilds so much power and influence and basicly controls our foriegn policy? DOES ISRAEL OWN THE UNITED STATES?"
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The Israel lobby pales in comparison to the extremely vast and well-funded Arab lobby. Can you explain why the powerful and dangerous Arab lobby weilds so much influence and basically controls our foreign policy in the Mideast? Does saudia arabia own the United States? And why aren't you bitching about that? You see, its this kind of hypocrisy that gets people like you labeled the anti-Semites that you so obviously are.

Laura - Here you are again, branding people who disagree with you anti-semitic! The Arabs have something we need - oil. We do complain about that, thus the campaign to develop alternative energy technologies and win independence from foreign oil. The bigger problem is that Israel has nothing we need or want, sucks up billions in international welfare, and uses weapons we give them for DEFENSE to murder hundreds of children. Being anti-Israel is not the same as being anti-semitic. After finding the site www.jewsagainstzionism.com, I gained new respect for the Jewish religion. I knew that a majority of jews once considered the small extremist zionist movement to be sheer lunacy, but I thought they had basically caved in and given up on their religious beliefs.

Furthermore, I was just reading about the problem in the West Bank caused by Israeli-controlled areas near settlements where criminals have refuge because the Palestinian police can't enter them and the Israelis refuse to police them unless there is a threat to the settlement, beyond a checkpoint. But, you don't blog about those stories, only the ones that fit your zionist agenda. Here's the address: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090503/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_palestinians_crime_zones;_ylt=Ao5MjVGwVoKDAbB2NYBKg1YLewgF

Again, you have no clue about what you are talking about and once again have proven yourself to be an anti-Semite by your own lies and distortions about Israel. First of all it is the so-called PALESTINIANS who suck up billions in international welfare, not Israel. The "palestinians" are the largest per capita recipients of foreign aid in the entire world. Israel doesn't take anything from the U.S. but receives LOANS with the condition that Israel must use that money to buy military equipment from America. As for your contention that Israel has nothing we want or need, Israel is among the world leaders in the hi-tech and medical fields. Israel21c.com. Among the many Israeli inventions was the cell phone. On the other hand, the Arabs have given the world nothing but terrorism and the oil they have was extracted by westerners. As for your other scurilous charge that Israel murders children, murder is the deliberate act of killing. So you are saying that Israel purposely targets children for death. By making this charge exposes you as the vicious, vile anti-Semite you are. Murdering children and using them as human shields is the domain of the muslims, not the Israelis. So, I don't call just anyone who disagrees with me an anti-Semite. As I said to someone else here, if the shoe fits.

Those Jews against zionism ARE the small fringe of extremist lunatics, and in no way represent the majority of Jews or even a significant minority. I'm not surprised you would admire the self-hating Jews.

Being anti-Israel IS being anti-Semitic since you would deny the Jewish people and only the Jewish people the right to self-determination, the right to their own homeland. Why do you consider only Jewish nationalism to be illegitimate and describe it as lunacy, while every other form of nationalism in the world is considered just? Why do you consider "palestinian" nationalism to be a legitimate movement even though they have far less historical rights to the land than Jews do, there never in history has been a sovereign state of Palestine, plus they seek their state to be one that is free of Jews, a true apartheid state in every sense of the word, as is every other Arab-muslim state?

Please tell me again how your hypocrisy and double standards toward Israel can be described as anything other than anti-Semitic.

Laura - I agree with you, murder is the deliberate act of killing. Israel has special forces to rival those of the U.S. and Britain. Instead of using them, Isreal prefers to fly over it's occupied territory, above the height of any anti-air weapons, and target individuals with high explosives. Why? Because the Israelis value the lives of their citizens far more than the lives of the Palestinians. They don't care if they kill fifty children in the process of assassinating a Hamas leader, as long as they don't risk the death or injury of any Israeli soldiers in the process. It doesn't matter if the parents and relatives of the innocent victims are virtually guaranteed to become hell-bent on revenge, a completely understandable if not acceptable reaction. Israel can always bomb their neighborhood later. Don't think I don't hold the militants responsible for their own misdeeds - I do. I also, however, am willing to openly consider their situation and options. They are oppressed and backed into a corner.

And the story I gave you the link to is a good example. The Israelis won't let the Palestinian law-enforcement enter areas surrounding the settlements without permission, which is rarely given. The Israelis are responsible for law enforcement in these areas, they say. Israel, however, only works to enforce the laws within the settlements, protected by security checkpoints. The areas in question are not guarded by walls and checkpoints - criminals can cross the imaginary lines but police cannot without permission which they don't get. Knowing this, criminals use these areas as a safe haven from law enforcement and utilize them strategically when fleeing the crime scene because they know that the officers must cease their pursuit at a certain point and that the Israelis won't do anything unless it concerns the settlers. What exactly is my misunderstanding in this issue? It seems pretty straight-forward.

I disagree with you mostly because I don't believe that all members of Hamas and other militant organizations are driven by ideology. I believe most are driven by personal experiences with situations like the above-mentioned or by financial incentive (ie. join Gaza police, run by Hamas gov't to get income to feed children; killed, along with two-hundred other cadets at graduation by Israeli airstrike. If those children join militants, that's not driven by islamic extremism but by the injustices perpetrated by Israel directly upon them). That's why we don't agree. Israeli abuse and injustice is the cause of terrorism, but the Israelis ignore that fact and claim to be the victims. That's not to say that there aren't victims among them, but they weren't minding their own business when they were attacked without provocation.

"Because the Israelis value the lives of their citizens far more than the lives of the Palestinians".
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What army on the face of the Earth values its enemies citizens above their own? Did you bitch about the fact that the Russians slaughtered 10,000 Chechens with indiscriminate bombing? The irony is that the Israeli military is the most ethical and moral, along with America. They not only gave warnings to the civilian populations with phone calls and leaflets before bombing buildings, they even gave warnings to hamas terrorists. The amount of civilian deaths in Gaza, which btw is extremely low compared to that inflicted by other nations wars,(see Russia above as one example)are only because their own terrorist rulers use them as human shields.

Yes in fact Israel WAS attacked without provocation and AFTER its civilians and army had already left Gaza.

Hamas not driven by ideology? Try reading their charter which seeks the destruction of all Jewish political, cultural and relgious existence. The very existence of a Jewish state is considered an affront to islam.

hamas principles:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

btw the Sri Lankan army bombed a hospital, killing 52 people in its war against the tamil tigers. I don't hear any outrage from the international community or punks such as yourself. http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/2009/feb/04/srilanka-

So the selective outrage against Israel attests to the outright anti-Semitism inherent in the condemnations of Israeli military actions, which I state again result in far less loss of civilian life than other militaries throughout the world.